View Full Version : best way to learn to ride? gimmie your 2 cents
Grigori Rasputin
12-01-2008, 07:17 PM
simply as a matter of curiosity. what do you think is the best way to become familiar and comfortable with the....feel of riding motorcycles. should one develop their skillz in the dirt and then move over to street bikes, vise versa, or something completely different?
My start was mini-roadracing with a NSR50R and also playing around in the dirt also. I'm still a n00b, though. :D
Asian Dave
12-01-2008, 07:22 PM
Start small.
Desmofemme
12-01-2008, 07:24 PM
at night on something little.
at night on something little.
You are talking about bikes right
Asian Dave
12-01-2008, 07:27 PM
The NSR was great for track riding. It helped a lot w/ body position and it transfered well to the bigger bike. Then after doing a track day on the 600, I realized I can go a lot faster on the 50.
A few Skillz Days wouldn't hurt either.
Desmofemme
12-01-2008, 07:37 PM
You are talking about bikes right
course not. i love me some micropenis. :wiggle
But yeah... I'd have loved to start in the dirt. The MSF, Jeff & skillzday-type help, and parking lot practice were essential. And I started riding the streets at night to cut out the traffic element & get comfortable on the road.
Grigori Rasputin
12-01-2008, 07:39 PM
I learned my freeway riding at night...little traffic and headlights help you know where the traffic is i say +1....also made me go slower since I wasn't entirely comfortable of what was in front of me
Asian Dave
12-01-2008, 07:41 PM
I remember riding around the block at night and around the CSULB parking lot. LOL.
Learning to ride a bike by starting on the street was really easy for me. When I said a post up that I got my start, I meant with my start in sport riding. However, I was/am smart enough (mostly) to know that I should not try to ride hard on the street with the inexperience I had (actually, to know that I should never try to ride hard on the street).
Jeremy
12-01-2008, 07:44 PM
I taught my wife to ride, in the verizon amplitheater parking lot.. and I used Alex's old TTR-125 super moto bike
Grigori Rasputin
12-01-2008, 07:47 PM
I'm not so interested in riding hard....well not on a bike...more interested in understanding how the bike communicates. I've had a few oh shit experiences that were very....um educational. I feel I've learned a lot from those experiences, so i guess another question is how do you safely induce situations that scare you. my inexperience is probably the most dangerous risk to my riding, i'd like to change that....with as few broken bits as possible
get a turbo busa. go as fast as you can. never let go of the throttle. dont use the brakes.
YouTube - Suzuki Hayabusa with Turbo Vmax 390kmh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwieel03c-w)
The Sauce
12-01-2008, 08:31 PM
Drag race!
Grigori Rasputin
12-01-2008, 08:39 PM
Drag race!
what next I think I got that one covered
trackpimp
12-02-2008, 04:14 AM
I learned when I was a kid in the dirt..
I think the best way is to sign up for an MSF course and learn from qualified rider-coaches. smaller bikes are easier to learn on also..
I taught my wife how to ride in less than 30 minutes on her XR-100
Indetrucks
12-02-2008, 05:30 AM
Start on dirt..
Learn all the controls and the way a bike reacts on dirt. Ride trails, learn panic braking etc.
This helped me because now when my rear end gets loose at the track I don't panic or chop the throttle, I just ride it out.
Nocontrol
12-02-2008, 11:12 AM
Start on dirt..
Learn all the controls and the way a bike reacts on dirt. Ride trails, learn panic braking etc.
This helped me because now when my rear end gets loose at the track I don't panic or chop the throttle, I just ride it out.
+1
Practicing on the street helps you get a feel for the bike, but riding dirt really helps you learn to stay calm and control the bike when it is sliding. Then again, I rode dirt quite a while after I rode street and I survived a few occasions when I spun up the rear tire on my z1000. If you don't learn how to do that without having to think about it, you are gonna be in trouble when it happens.
Markbone
12-02-2008, 11:19 AM
started on dirt, took the MSF, practiced in lots. to get familiar with the bike and how it works.
aidan what worked for me was the skillzday with jeff. i got exactly what you are looking for from him, but that could have just been me. im up for another cuz there's still tons i want to learn.
Have absolutely no dirt or street experience and go buy a 600. Drive off the lot with no helmet and flip flops. 3 bikes and 12000 miles later buy a racebike, race for a couple years, win some championships, quit racing for a few years, do stupid stuff on streetbikes, buy a dirtbike, race again for a couple years, win some more, sell streetbike, buy another dirt bike, buy a mountain bike, stop racing again ....
And the 9 year saga continues.......
k0ncept
12-02-2008, 11:36 AM
if you can ride dirt/sand/rocks/hills you can ride the piss out of just about anything, R1's will feel like pocketbikes after you get good..
Markbone
12-02-2008, 11:41 AM
one thing i have noticed is most everything is just a mindset. hell on my commute my mind just stopped thinking and i had the most fun ever. didnt do anything amazing but i was in total control of my bike. i kew how it would react and what to do once it did. hasnt happened to me all that often but this morning def stood out. if you think it it will happen. skills can be learned and practiced but that does you no good if youre still paranoid. set yourself in your Zen mode and rock it.
The Sauce
12-02-2008, 01:31 PM
Have absolutely no dirt or street experience and go buy a 600. Drive off the lot with no helmet and flip flops. 3 bikes and 12000 miles later buy a racebike, race for a couple years, win some championships, quit racing for a few years, do stupid stuff on streetbikes, buy a dirtbike, race again for a couple years, win some more, sell streetbike, buy another dirt bike, buy a mountain bike, stop racing again ....
And the 9 year saga continues.......
I hate you. Good Day.
I SAID GOOD DAY!
Dee Dub
12-02-2008, 03:12 PM
I learned in the dirt...Rode and raced until I was about 30.
I think that's a good basis, but disagree that being hot in the dirt will make you hot on asphalt...completely different style, bike weights. I actually did better in the dirt than on the pavement, but....maybe I'm just a wuss...
Grigori Rasputin
12-02-2008, 03:21 PM
started on dirt, took the MSF, practiced in lots. to get familiar with the bike and how it works.
aidan what worked for me was the skillzday with jeff. i got exactly what you are looking for from him, but that could have just been me. im up for another cuz there's still tons i want to learn.
ya I've done the basic MSF and I've been to a handful of skillz days, but I'm always down for more. I was thinking about the MSF advanced course, but haven't thought about it much
triplestack3
12-02-2008, 03:30 PM
helps if you have a friend that will work with ya
I don't think my BMX experience really helped all that much though; I just hated pedaling.
Chromodome
12-02-2008, 03:37 PM
ya I've done the basic MSF and I've been to a handful of skillz days, but I'm always down for more. I was thinking about the MSF advanced course, but haven't thought about it much
MSF Advanced is just the MSF Basic all over again, on your own bike. You get much the same from a day with Jeff. :2cents
Grigori Rasputin
12-02-2008, 03:51 PM
don't you have to renew your msf status every so often to get the insurance discount?
Chromodome
12-02-2008, 03:53 PM
Not sure, I told State Farm I had taken the advanced course and they said "congrats". YMMV, depending on insurer. :D
Da Baddest Mofo
12-02-2008, 04:28 PM
I'm surprised no one said it yet:
SUPERMOTO FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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