Want to go FASTER on the track?

[trackpimp]

OKay, So I stole this from another site.. still cool though!

Here is a check list:

1. Why? If you can't answer this question, you can't prepare for the result.
If you want to go faster to impress your friends (be honest), then it may be easier to pick new friends. If you want to go faster because you enjoy the way you feel ( my primary motivation) then you have a problem, you are an addict.

2. Why are you riding a pig? Is your bike stock, with the only adjustments made sag, or sag and clickers? Or none? Guess what. There is a REASON racers buy aftermarket suspension. Unfortunately many stock bikes ( the new R6 and GSXR's are nice exceptions) just have poor suspension designed for the street and a comfortable ride. Even good suspension with a poor setup will be pig slow. If you are fighting the bike to turn it, something is wrong. A bike should turn easily and be fun to ride. If it ain't, you need to find out why. Don't spend $2k on trackdays to "get faster" when a five minute adjustment to shock length might remove all of your turning problems. If you can't turn it easily, something is wrong.

3. Who are you riding with? If you are riding with your friends, and kinda go back and forth on the track, that's lots of fun, but unless your friends are fast ( and they probably are not) you won't get any faster. Wanna go faster? Hang out with the faster riders. That gives you something to aim at. Without a goal, you are stuck.

4. The main difference between you and the guy ten seconds a lap faster than you is, guess what, not skill, bike, or magic. It's that your level of comfort is lower than his. Sorry. That's pretty much it. He or she is more comfortable and relaxed than you are. Try and grasp that... It is important.

5. What do you expect? Want to get five seconds a lap faster? It's easy to do when you are turning 2:35s at Thill. When you are turning 2:05s at Thill on an SV, there are only five seconds left. When you are turning 2:05 at Thill on ANY bike, you won't pick up five seconds in one day. Don't try to. If you pick up three seconds in a season you have done really well.

6. Tires. No they are not slowing you down. YOU are slowing you down.

7. Bumps. No they are not slowing you down. The only place they might is at the apex of a corner.

8. Get used to the bike moving around. Dirt bike riders are. If you are not shuddering, juddering, rotating around the headstock on braking, sliding, twitching, and shaking the front end, you are not going fast. Watch a GP bike with a fork mounted camera some time. All that movement does not mean something is wrong, it means something is right.


Your experience may vary.

[rich]

Does that mean I should try to ride in A group? HAHA

[Orguss]

Does this mean I need to get a bike :-)

[Indetrucks]

Does this mean I need to get a bike :-)

you can start with a bike :idunno

[rich]

Does this mean I need to get a bike :-)

That's prob a good idea.

[Indetrucks]

4. The main difference between you and the guy ten seconds a lap faster than you is, guess what, not skill, bike, or magic. It's that your level of comfort is lower than his. Sorry. That's pretty much it. He or she is more comfortable and relaxed than you are. Try and grasp that... It is important.
That's it right thurrrrr!
Plus more gas sooner and more break later! haha

[Markbone]

That's it right thurrrrr!
Plus more gas sooner and more break later! haha


ahh naw, here we go again.

what next tire thread? oil threead? suspension thread? .....

:lol7


bj smiley FTMFW: :bj2

[trackpimp]

That's it right thurrrrr!
Plus more gas sooner and more break later! haha

I agree man! The average person's perception of what's dangerous is different than a racer guy's perception.. and that guy's is different than a fast racer guy's.. and so on.. Rossi must be completely off the charts!

This is why sometimes C group riders complain about "getting stuffed into turn 1" when in reality, they were still going straight, and the turn hadn't even started yet.

[Nemesis]

Damn, that sounded like Tige @ Cyclemall.net

I remember him telling me this months before I knocked 7 secs off my time @ BW.

[rich]

what about balls? gotta have balls, right?

[Nemesis]

what about balls? gotta have balls, right?

:lmfao

Sometimes your "balls" can get you into trouble (i.e. like crashing). :lmfao

[rich]

:lmfao

Sometimes your "balls" can get you into trouble (i.e. like crashing). :lmfao

OH snap! I'll take great pleasure in lapping you on the next trackday. slowmesis.

[Nemesis]

OH snap! I'll take great pleasure in lapping you on the next trackday. slowmesis.

:lmfao:laughing2:lmfao:laughing2:lmfao


It wasn't directed at you foo! hahhahaha...but it's the truth, no? Generally speaking.

[rich]

LOL
I did crash on my last tday....guess I'm a little sensitive about it. LOL
But yeah, balls with no skills is prob not a good thing. SLOWMESIS. hahahaha

[Nemesis]

Hahaha...btw, I like your avatar. Was that picture taken just seconds before your crash? LOL!!!

[Asian Dave]

I agree w/ this. I have noticed an increased lap time running w/ A group.
3. Who are you riding with? If you are riding with your friends, and kinda go back and forth on the track, that's lots of fun, but unless your friends are fast ( and they probably are not) you won't get any faster. Wanna go faster? Hang out with the faster riders. That gives you something to aim at. Without a goal, you are stuck.


I'm working on this...
4. The main difference between you and the guy ten seconds a lap faster than you is, guess what, not skill, bike, or magic. It's that your level of comfort is lower than his. Sorry. That's pretty much it. He or she is more comfortable and relaxed than you are. Try and grasp that... It is important.


I still have a problem w/ this. That's why I picked up dirt riding.

8. Get used to the bike moving around. Dirt bike riders are. If you are not shuddering, juddering, rotating around the headstock on braking, sliding, twitching, and shaking the front end, you are not going fast. Watch a GP bike with a fork mounted camera some time. All that movement does not mean something is wrong, it means something is right.

[CooterShooter]

how to increase comfort level?

[Asian Dave]

More track time.

[rich]

track time track time track time

[HoolieB]

how to increase comfort level?

Meditation never hurts. (Off the bike, natch.)

[Nemesis]

8. Get used to the bike moving around. Dirt bike riders are. If you are not shuddering, juddering, rotating around the headstock on braking, sliding, twitching, and shaking the front end, you are not going fast. Watch a GP bike with a fork mounted camera some time. All that movement does not mean something is wrong, it means something is right.

Um...I just experienced this in mid-turn off-ramping--almost lowsided. Probably a good thing to mention - TAKE IT TO THE TRACK!!

haha!

[CooterShooter]

Im fine with my street bike moving around, and im cool with an atv for dirt....but ive never been able to get the hang of a big dirtbike moving around on me = instant crashing!

more track time = more money

I need to sell my body again.

[Research Monkey]

I agree w/ this. I have noticed an increased lap time running w/ A group.



I'm working on this...



I still have a problem w/ this. That's why I picked up dirt riding.

Same page with you... Trying to get more comfortable out there. I also want to pick up dirt riding to start getting better with the bike moving.

[SatansSquirrel]

I don't want to go faster, I want to go better.

[Research Monkey]

Davey Cracka say's you guys are all slow!

He also says you don't know how to spell. :fawkdance

[zman]

Dang i have to stop riding in C group and bump up to B finally :lmfao

[trackpimp]

I don't want to go faster, I want to go better.

going "better" usually results in going faster ;)

[Nemesis]

Dang i have to stop riding in C group and bump up to B finally :lmfao

Hey, anytime you need a tow you let me know.:2thumbsup I'm always down to help the weak :biggrin2

[Indetrucks]

:lmfao

Sometimes your "balls" can get you into trouble (i.e. like crashing). :lmfao


You also have to learn from your crashes "how much more throttle can you get away with in a corner, as well as the delivery of said throttle."

I've crashed once thus far and it was at Buttonwillow, but I also believe it has made me a smoother/faster rider.
I now know NOT to chop on the throttle at full lean while traveling over 100mph (I credit a lot of this mistake to lack of patience). I just wanted to go faster NOW.
Some slow down after a crash, maybe they get spooked? But if you take the crash and use it as a learning tool.. then you should get faster. My lap times improved over two seconds from the last time I was at Pahrump before the crash.
I haven't been back to Buttonwillow since the crash, so we'll see if I can improve on my 1:58 PR I set the lap before the crash. :laughing

[trackpimp]

You also have to learn from your crashes "how much more throttle can you get away with in a corner, as well as the delivery of said throttle."

I've crashed once thus far and it was at Buttonwillow.....
I just wanted to go faster NOW....
I haven't been back to Buttonwillow since the crash...

I think I was out on the track riding our 08 R1 at the time of your wreck.. You were going real good, and were REALLY all over my back wheel, so I was like "okay dude.. go.." and allowed you to pass.. Then you crashed like half a lap later.

You're pretty fast for a trackday dude.. but I think you're right.. You wanted to be fast RIGHT NOW... Some times it takes riders (myself included) a couple of good whacks on the ground before they realize what you've realized after only one. VERY COOL! Hopefully we'll get to play tag a bit more at BW later this year.

[SatansSquirrel]

Do you need to crash to go faster?

[trackpimp]

Do you need to crash to go faster?

No.. I wouldn't say that's necessary... There are several riders I've worked with over the years that got pretty fast without smacking the ground. The reality is crashing is just part of the deal. Everyone eventually crashes! Anyone that says otherwise is not paying attention.

Different people learn in different ways. Some riders are more conservative and take longer to get "faster".. Some crash a lot, but get up to speed fairly quick.. and some riders will never be "fast":idunno

[Indetrucks]

that's exactly it...
I know for a fact it was lack patience being the cause of my crash.
I seem to lack patience in just about everything I do. I want to be as fast as the guys that ARE fast. I figure, they can do it.. why can't I ?

But you are right, that smack made me really think about patience and throttle control. Now in every corner I concentrate on being as smooth as possible.
I was thinking about this the other day.
I was getting to the point where riding track felt like I was playing a video game.
I hadn't crashed yet so the reality of that even happening just wasn't in my head. Riding just didn't feel real to me, I would get into a zone and like I said... felt like a video game. This feeling ever happened to anybody else?

When I high sided I honestly thought "why don't I just pin it NOW?" So I totally did and that's when I felt the back end go out. Then I was in the air and decided to just close my eyes.. lol

Very lucky I didn't get more hurt than a fractured ankle. I guess I just thought at that speed the rear wheel couldn't possibly come out on me.. Ducati 999 torque monster said otherwise.

[trackpimp]

Christian.. Most riders don't have what you have.. you could probably go racing, and be very competitive!

[101lifts2]

That's it right thurrrrr!
Plus more gas sooner and more break later! haha


I'm going to take a brake...when I remove my foot from the break. :fawkdance

[SatansSquirrel]

I haven't crashed yet. Just hope when I do its not bad.

[zman]

Christian has more Balls then Brains
and in Racing sometimes thats a good thing ha ha

[MOOCHER]

i done a few track days i know i can go fast but i slow down a lot on turns
then i tell myself need to be at work on mon but I NEED BIGGER BALLSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Indetrucks]

Christian.. Most riders don't have what you have.. you could probably go racing, and be very competitive!
$ is pretty much keeping me from racing. That and the thought of failure, I hate failure and for some reason have a great deal of fear of it. How you fear failure but not fear a 100+ mph crash is beyond me :idunno

Christian has more Balls then Brains
and in Racing sometimes that's a good thing ha ha
:laughing Totally agree.. I don't think about consequences when it comes to riding anything. When I think about falling I'm not having fun anymore. So I just pretend that it wont happen (too many video games I think)

i done a few track days i know i can go fast but i slow down a lot on turns
then i tell myself need to be at work on mon but I NEED BIGGER BALLSSSSSSSSSSSSS

yeah.. guess I don't think about what I have to do the following day.
But then again, I sit in front of a computer and could prolly type with the beak of my nose if I had to :lmfao

Dustin, what class could I enter in with my 999? Is there enough competition in the V-Twin class in any org?
I just don't want to be like "some people" that brag about having a #1 plate when my competition involved 4 riders with some days me being the only rider to show up which gives me the automatic "W"

Would the most logical thing to do be to sell the Duc and get an inline?

[HoolieB]

Would the most logical thing to do be to sell the Duc and get an inline?

You're asking Dustin this question? :lmfao :laughing2

[Kurosaki]

I'm trying to get faster and better by osmosis.


I put my bike on it's stand and sit on it and hug it tightly with a couple riding technique books strapped to my head. I think I'm starting to get a better "feel" for the bike and the knowledge in the books is phasing into my brain.

This should help me greatly at the next trackday.:freakon

[trackpimp]

Dustin, what class could I enter in with my 999? Is there enough competition in the V-Twin class in any org?
I just don't want to be like "some people" that brag about having a #1 plate when my competition involved 4 riders with some days me being the only rider to show up which gives me the automatic "W"

Would the most logical thing to do be to sell the Duc and get an inline?


@ Willow, you can race the 999 in Formula Twins HW, BOTT HW, 750Superbike, Formula 1 (if you're PRO), and Formula 40 HW (if you're OLD).

You'd have to start out in HW-Novice, race a bit and earn your probational expert license before you can race in the classes I listed above.

as for the best thing to do.. Its a personal preference thing. Racing a ducati can get quite expensive, more so than the Jap-I-4 counter-parts. If you were thinking about going racing.. I'd look for a used R6 (06 models up...) with some spares, and go racing! 600 class racing is arguably the most highly competitive class out there! If you're content doing what your doing all Trackday Slut style.. just keep the Duc, and have fun!

[420]

@ Willow, you can race the 999 in Formula Twins HW, BOTT HW, 750Superbike, Formula 1 (if you're PRO), and Formula 40 HW (if you're OLD).

You'd have to start out in HW-Novice, race a bit and earn your probational expert license before you can race in the classes I listed above.

as for the best thing to do.. Its a personal preference thing. Racing a ducati can get quite expensive, more so than the Jap-I-4 counter-parts. If you were thinking about going racing.. I'd look for a used R6 (06 models up...) with some spares, and go racing! 600 class racing is arguably the most highly competitive class out there! If you're content doing what your doing all Trackday Slut style.. just keep the Duc, and have fun!

Good Advice! But I'd buy the perfectly capable 05 R6 that is sitting in my garage...:D

[Asian Dave]

I say Do it! Race!

[Indetrucks]

Id be the only fool rolling up in a 96 Tacoma with a Duc in the back! haha

[Kurosaki]

I hadn't crashed yet so the reality of that even happening just wasn't in my head. Riding just didn't feel real to me, I would get into a zone and like I said... felt like a video game. This feeling ever happened to anybody else?



If anything, I learn to feel comfortable with the track layout of any given track the same way I do when playing video games. I'm not good at learning by watching. I can't look at the track layout and remember the turns. Watching someone else's video didn't help me a whole lot either.

When I get out there to ride, I won't remember. And the sighting laps didn't help me a whole bunch either. I have to get out there at my pace and feel it before the turns start sticking in my brain and muscle memory. In the first session at my BW trackday, the control riders made us follow them the whole 20 minutes. Even at the end, I was still getting lost out there on the track. I didn't start to pick up the turns until the next 2 sessions when I could go faster at my pace. And it helped that I was staring at Nemesis' butt since he was helping too.:poke

But after I feel it, I can play back the track at any given point in my head. Or I can listen to the audio of someone riding the track and visualize the video

[Asian Dave]

Id be the only fool rolling up in a 96 Tacoma with a Duc in the back! haha

You mean we'd be the fools. I can't let you roll up there by yourself.

[MOOCHER]

Id be the only fool rolling up in a 96 Tacoma with a Duc in the back! haha


its a nice tacoma

[Kurosaki]

Here's a question for those of you who race. Or I guess this applies to trackdays too if you're riding behind someone.


Are you looking at the rider in front of you or are you looking "through" them past them as if they weren't there. If you know what I'm trying to get at. Are you trying to follow them by keeping your eyes on them or are you trying to keep your eyes off them and follow your own line? (even if it happens to be the same line as the guy in front.

[420]

latter.

[CooterShooter]

I'm trying to get faster and better by osmosis.


I put my bike on it's stand and sit on it and hug it tightly with a couple riding technique books strapped to my head. I think I'm starting to get a better "feel" for the bike and the knowledge in the books is phasing into my brain.

This should help me greatly at the next trackday.:freakon

Thanks for the tip. Ill try that.

[Research Monkey]

Here's a question for those of you who race. Or I guess this applies to trackdays too if you're riding behind someone.


Are you looking at the rider in front of you or are you looking "through" them past them as if they weren't there. If you know what I'm trying to get at. Are you trying to follow them by keeping your eyes on them or are you trying to keep your eyes off them and follow your own line? (even if it happens to be the same line as the guy in front.

Through them, but you keep a wide enough view that you have them in your peripheral vision.

If you keep your eyes on them you could; end up going over your head (if the rider is fast), crashing into them if they crash, or even going slower (if the rider is slower)

[/J/]

how to increase comfort level?

Increase skill level. :owneddance

[Kurosaki]

Through them, but you keep a wide enough view that you have them in your peripheral vision.

If you keep your eyes on them you could; end up going over your head (if the rider is fast), crashing into them if they crash, or even going slower (if the rider is slower)


Thanks. That's what I figured but never know. Some things about riding are counterintuitive.


I may have trouble keeping my eyes off the rider ahead of me. I like big butts and I cannot lie.

[/J/]

Very lucky I didn't get more hurt than a fractured ankle. I guess I just thought at that speed the rear wheel couldn't possibly come out on me.. Ducati 999 torque monster said otherwise.

That's what happened to me on my only day at Big Willow (I think it was my 2nd trackday on a full-size course ). SV1000S....exit of turn 2... I hear some pipe coming up behind me, but at the time I didn't know it was Kurt Whittington. Same thing..."Why can't I pin it now? But of course I can!" I held the throttle though, lowsided and broke my foot. Ahhh....good lesson.

[Research Monkey]

Thanks. That's what I figured but never know. Some things about riding are counterintuitive.


I may have trouble keeping my eyes off the rider ahead of me. I like big butts and I cannot lie.


I know how you feel. Well, maybe not the butts part LOL!

One time I was asked to video somebody in B group. I'm in B so I thought ok, how hard can it be. This guy had terrible lines and I had trouble with my lines (ended up going slower). On the opposite side of that I actually got my best times @ BW following Tyler around.

[/J/]

When I get out there to ride, I won't remember. And the sighting laps didn't help me a whole bunch either. I have to get out there at my pace and feel it before the turns start sticking in my brain and muscle memory. In the first session at my BW trackday, the control riders made us follow them the whole 20 minutes. Even at the end, I was still getting lost out there on the track. I didn't start to pick up the turns until the next 2 sessions when I could go faster at my pace. And it helped that I was staring at Nemesis' butt since he was helping too.:poke

But after I feel it, I can play back the track at any given point in my head. Or I can listen to the audio of someone riding the track and visualize the video

Great riders can go out on a track they don't know and be relatively fast right away. You need to be comfortable with your bike, your skill, and understand the mechanics of riding and always LOOK AHEAD.

[Kurosaki]

Great riders can go out on a track they don't know and be relatively fast right away. You need to be comfortable with your bike, your skill, and understand the mechanics of riding and always LOOK AHEAD.
It's more of a difference in learning style though, no? Some people are hands on learners by nature. Some learn better by reading or watching someone else. Riding doesn't seem to be the kind of thing that leans towards visual learning. At least it's not for me. All that balance and technique malarky doesn't make a lot of sense to me until I try it.


I can pick up the track relatively quick if I'm on it. I just gotta do it myself instead of watching. I'm that guy who always says "NO, let me do it." when you're trying to show someone how to do something like working on a car/bike or building something. :D Then I can learn quickly. (with instruction and help of course.)


Not saying I'm a great rider or anything. :D Knowing and doing are two different things.

[ti2ttmatt]

Here's a question for those of you who race. Or I guess this applies to trackdays too if you're riding behind someone.


Are you looking at the rider in front of you or are you looking "through" them past them as if they weren't there. If you know what I'm trying to get at. Are you trying to follow them by keeping your eyes on them or are you trying to keep your eyes off them and follow your own line? (even if it happens to be the same line as the guy in front.

I liked this one and will offer what advice I can...

I would say that there are MANY lines through any particular corner especially when we are talking in terms of racing. If EVERYONE was on the same quintessential "race line" how would anyone pass anyone?! Passing is certainly an abstract art at best, but I would say that confidence is the number one most important thing. Not hesitating and just acting is the way to go. I know that this is easier said than done and requires a BUNCH of track days, practice sessions, and actual races, but it is imperative! I can't tell you how many times early on in the trackday/race career that I was beating myself up under my helmet about the fact that I should have just "gone for it" and been stuck behind another rider/racer for many corners or even another lap.

Don't look directly at the passee, as you will likely run into the back of them or find yourself doing your first stoppie, assuming that you are not a stunter, trying to avoid running into the back of them. Any line that the rider in front of you is NOT on is fair game. The obvious rules apply. Outside passes on real sharp, decreasing radius turns, while not impossible, are difficult. Outside of the fast sweepers are great turns to "out balls" someone. Out-braking maneuvers are fantastic and fun to stick on someone... Play with it and see what you come up with!

Hopefully this is at least somewhat enlightening.

Matt

[Kurosaki]

Thanks, Matt. Very informative. :)

[Nemesis]

Personally, what made me go faster wasn't so much following someone faster. The initial quote/post hinders me more than it does help me; as my focus tend to fall on the rider ahead than it does on "being faster". IMO, the rush of following someone faster than you can lead to crashes as you lose focus on what you're supposed to be doing and just become a mindless soldier. Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone. Sure following someone to show you the lines is one thing but it doesn't necessarily make you any faster...at least in my case it didn't.

What HAS helped me is dropping down to a smaller engine (from 600 to 250) and work on my basics again. Because the throttle response is so forgiving, and because of its lack of HP/Torque, I was forced to find ways (better lines, drive, brake later (if that), carry more speed in the turns, etc.) to pass bigger bikes. I then switched to the 600 and riding the 600 became easier and as a result I was able to shorten my times dramatically!

I'm not like others....I need to take baby steps. Following others who are faster IS a big step for me and will only hurt me. Riding the 250 has pushed me outside of my comfort zone and limit, thus setting a higher limit which I'm looking forward to surpassing this year on both the 250 and 600.

Just my .02

[101lifts2]

Personally, what made me go faster wasn't so much following someone faster. The initial quote/post hinders me more than it does help me; as my focus tend to fall on the rider ahead than it does on "being faster". IMO, the rush of following someone faster than you can lead to crashes as you lose focus on what you're supposed to be doing and just become a mindless soldier. Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone. Sure following someone to show you the lines is one thing but it doesn't necessarily make you any faster...at least in my case it didn't.

What HAS helped me is dropping down to a smaller engine (from 600 to 250) and work on my basics again. Because the throttle response is so forgiving, and because of its lack of HP/Torque, I was forced to find ways (better lines, drive, brake later (if that), carry more speed in the turns, etc.) to pass bigger bikes. I then switched to the 600 and riding the 600 became easier and as a result I was able to shorten my times dramatically!

I'm not like others....I need to take baby steps. Following others who are faster IS a big step for me and will only hurt me. Riding the 250 has pushed me outside of my comfort zone and limit, thus setting a higher limit which I'm looking forward to surpassing this year on both the 250 and 600.

Just my .02

Did you move out of the C group yet?:freakon

The thing that made me faster was a piece of tape on the triple tree that says "Don't be a pussy".

[chiquita100]

What HAS helped me is dropping down to a smaller engine (from 600 to 250) and work on my basics again. I then switched to the 600 and riding the 600 became easier and as a result I was able to shorten my times dramatically! Riding the 250 has pushed me outside of my comfort zone and limit, thus setting a higher limit which I'm looking forward to surpassing this year on both the 250 and 600.Just my .02

you've got a good approach without the "'tude" of needing a big bike to show your stuff. those with ego and testosterone, it seems, use a bigger bike to get the times down but the true handling skills get a short shrift (and crashes occur). anyone can crank it open, that's an easy skill :)

i've ridden the 250 pinned all way 'round WSIR and it is a great little bike to work on carrying corner speed and develop handling skills to get the lines/apexs down - not to mention it's a hoot to ride as well. *giggle* after all, if Tigert can run 1.40 on a 250 it's proof positive that skill development is where it's at. those strugging with times in other divisions on bigger bikes may just want to sit back and do some soul-searching 'cause it's not (to me) the bike, the set-up, being towed or chasing out there that may make or break it, it's handling skills. just my humble .02

[trackpimp]

Anyone that's still interested in this topic can check out #775 in MW Novice this month. Last month, I was working with him on race weekend, and got him from 1:37's, down to 1:31's pretty consistently in practice, and a fastest of a 31 in his race.. This month we're going to focus on a few other things and hopefully get that number closer to sub 1:30..
We're in the turn-1 area next to the TrackDaz sign typically.

[wsmc27]

Dustin, what class could I enter in with my 999? Is there enough competition in the V-Twin class in any org?
I just don't want to be like "some people" that brag about having a #1 plate when my competition involved 4 riders with some days me being the only rider to show up which gives me the automatic "W"

Would the most logical thing to do be to sell the Duc and get an inline?

$0.02

You should get the new Yamaha R1.

There are never any good riders on twins anywhere, in any club.

:idunno

[Indetrucks]

$0.02

You should get the new Yamaha R1.

There are never any good riders on twins anywhere, in any club.

:idunno

It's in the worx :thumb

I want to capitalize on someones 09 they have already tricked out in track form though. So maybe at the end of this season?
Keep an eye out

[triplestack3]

*sigh*
I just wanna get back out there and ride.

Last weekend, I kind of felt myself hitting a wall, but after sitting out at cornerworking stations, it's really helped open my eyes to new possibilities. It's cool being able to see the difference in speed, throttle application, and body position between a fast guy, a really fast guy, and an insanely fast guy.
I usually go home thinking about where I can get better at a track and it gives me something to work on for the next time. That's what keeps me coming back.

[Canyonball]

Good read. If it came down to one word, that key word is comfort. I know I'm constantly working on my comfort with threshold braking. That's where I typically will get passed on...
Repetition is also key...